New hops experiment

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dannyjed
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New hops experiment

I've just started the beginning of some hop experiments using some newer varieties (Azacca, Buzz, and El Dorado). My goal is to get a good idea of the flavor and aroma from these hops that I've never used before. I'm making a 5 ga lbatch of IPA for each and will be using the same grain bill (96% Two row and %4 Crystal 40). I also going to use a small dose of Warrior hops for the 60 min addition and loading up with these new hops @ 15 min, 0 min and dry hop. Also, I also using some Cascade along with the new varieties because I don't usually like using one flavor and aroma hop alone. The ratio will be 3:1 new hop to Cascade. So, my first batch I used Azacca and it smelled like Amarillo and Citra when I added it to the boil kettle, but the true test will be in a couple weeks and I taste the finished product. My wife will also taste test with me and I think she has a better palette than me. I will keep this updated when the first beer is ready. Then, I will do the same with Buzz and El Dorado. I think I might bottle some of the first two batches to compare all three when the last batch is ready.

dannyjed
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My wife and I tasted the

My wife and I tasted the Azacca IPA and we both concur that we are not impressed. The flavor was very mild and subtle, more like a herbal and earthy flavored hop. It didn't taste like it smelled when I added during the boil. The hop aroma was also mild with a hint of citrus. I think Azacca hops might be better suited for a darker beer like an Amber, Brown, or Porter. They might also work in hoppy beers when mixed with other C hops, but they would probably be overpowered and hardly noticed if used in equal ratios. Good thing I had friends and family over the holidays to drink it up because I really didn't care for it.

Dan Chisholm

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Well I just realized that I

Well I just realized that I put this in Mashing Experiments...doh! Anyway, I made the El Dorado IPA and the wifey and I agree that it is much better than the first one (Azacca). This hop has a very nice aroma and flavor. It has this strange, sweet almost candy like flavor that I can't quite put my finger on. Some citrus and slight tropical aroma and flavor. I'm not getting much "dank" or resin aroma or flavor, but this hop would pair nicely with some others like Columbus or Chinook. I decided to use it in small amounts in a DIPA mixed with Amarillo, Mosaic and Citra. A very nice hop in an IPA that I would definitely use again.

Dan Chisholm

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I just put an El Dorado IPA

I just put an El Dorado IPA in the carboy. I haven't tasted it yet, but the freshly opened bag of hop pellets smelt like starburst candy and bubble gum (I was the only one there to smell it though). I'll be interested to find out if that initial aroma carries through to the finish...

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Bummer about the Azacca :( I

Bummer about the Azacca :( I have a lb of it kicking about and had a azacca/mosaic ipa planned for the weekend. Might have to rethink it, or just say screw it and see what happens. Good news: I also have a lb of El Dorado :)

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It might work nice with

It might work nice with Mosaic. Try it, you never know...

Dan Chisholm

jamboo
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I recently did an El Dorado

I recently did an El Dorado smash and I got a ton of pear and some watermelon flavor.

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The final IPA with Buzz hops

The final IPA with Buzz hops is complete. The aroma is mild citrus like a sweet orange. The flavor is similar with hints of citrus and some herbal/earthy notes. This hop is not strong with resinous, oily properties, but rather mild and pleasant. It also has a clean bitterness. I like this hop, but there is not a lot going on by itself. It would be nice in a blend with some piney varieties. This experiment has given me some good results (of course these are my opinions and subjective to my tastes) 1. All three of these hops are not "stand alone" hops in an IPA, but rather complimentary hops for other combinations. 2. The most interesting was the El Dorado because of sweet candy-like flavor. 3. I probably will never use the Azacca in an IPA again if at all.

Dan Chisholm