Episode 126 – REPLAY – The Myth of Mino

REPLAY TIME!
This episode we talk about two of our favorite online communities and their upcoming distributed competitions. We stop in the pub to do a little talk about mashing obsessions and the law and homebrewing. We head to the library to talk about Scott Janish's article on DMS, causes and cures and his test. Denny and I talk about his favorite homebrew myths before he heads to the land by the waters – Milwaukee – where he talks to Mino Choi, a homebrewer with a culinary obsession and a couple of 50 point entries under his belt. Mino talks his process, his designing and some agressive techniques he uses to drive his fermentations.
We come back to our “Something Other Than Beer” segment with Denny enjoying spending time with Cecilia Chiang, the Chinese cuisine equivalent to Julia Child and we close out with Drew circling back to a lesson from earlier in the show!
Episode Links:
Brew United – http://www.brewunited.com/
SJPorr Challenge – https://sjporrchallenge.org/
Trumer Pils – http://www.trumer-international.com/
California AB-2172 – http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201…
Scott Janish's DMS Article: http://scottjanish.com/how-to-prevent-dms-in-beer/
Homebrew Myths – https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/6-common-homebrew-myt…
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Our Sponsors
00:02:32 – Support Us
00:05:38 – BrewUnited – Interview with Olan Suddeth
00:15:12 – SJPorr Challenge
00:17:29 The Pub – Trumer Pils and Homebrew Law
00:31:18 The Library – DMS
00:40:40 The Brewery – Pico Brew and Extract Results
00:49:31 The Lab – Homebrew Myths with Denny Conn
00:56:32 The Lounge – Unknown All-Star: Mino Choi
01:40:21 Something Other Than Beer – Cecilia Chiang
01:43:42 Quick Tip – Quick Second Batch
01:44:50 Wrap up
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BrewCraft USA

Craftmeister
Wyeast Labs

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Brew Files – 95 – How Now Brown Cow

The Brew is Out There!
Brown Ale has a bad reputation. It's old man fuddy duddy beer, but for many of us that warm embrace of suppable malt was amongst our first forays into good beer. Denny and Drew walk you through what makes a brown ale and how to make them!
Links:
The Slideshow: https://slides.com/drewbeechum/brownales
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Brewers Publications

Atlantic Brew Supply (Discount Code: BrewFiles)
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Yeast Cultures are Like Nuclear Weapons

Back in the bad old days, a home brewer was happy just to have a reliable yeast culture to pitch into his/her wort. The average home brewer today is no longer content with having access to yeast cultures that get the job done without leaving a trail of metabolic trash that is a mile wide. He/she wants to be able to compute and hit the exact number of cells needed to ferment a given batch of wort. The cold hard truth is that this level of precision is neither obtainable, nor is it necessary in a home brewery. A yeast culture is like a nuclear weapon in that a brewer only needs to be within a reasonable distance of his/her target in order to complete the task at hand. In this blog entry, we will cover how the yeast biomass in a starter or fermentation grows, and why homebrewers are placing emphasis on precision where it is not needed.

Brewing yeast is a mystery to many home brewers. It is easily the most technically complex part of the brewing process, after all, brewers make wort, yeast makes beer. Fermentation is little more than controlled spoilage. In the case of beer, the spoilage microorganism is the yeast culture that we pitch. We want the pitched yeast culture to “own” the wort, and we want to ensure that it owns the wort quickly enough to prevent any wild microflora (yeast, bacteria, mold) that may have hitched a ride on airborne particulate matter from gaining a foothold in our fermentation. We accomplish this task by pitching a large number of active yeast cells while practicing good brewery hygiene.

Yeast cells go through three distinct phases during fermentation before entering a state known as quiescence. The phase that we will be discussing in this blog entry is known as the exponential phase (also known as the logarithmic phase). The exponential phase is where the yeast biomass grows. This phase is called the exponential phase because the cell count grows exponentially at a rate of 2n, where n is the number of minutes that have elapsed since the culture entered the exponential phase divided by the replication period in minutes (computer scientists who are reading this blog entry will recognize this growth pattern as O(2n), or binary exponential growth). The reason why the yeast biomass grows at a rate of 2n is because each mother cell buds a daughter cell during a replication period.

With the above said, let’s examine the basic formula for approximating the cell count at a given number of minutes into the exponential phase. yeast_cell_count_at_time_t = initial_yeast_cell_count * 2n, where n equals the number of minutes that have elapsed since the beginning of the exponential phase (time_t) divided by the replication period (replication_period) Let’s apply the formula shown above with time_t equal to 90 minutes and replication_period equal to 90 minutes.

time_t = 90 minutes into the exponential phase

initial_cell_count = 200 billion

replication_period = 90 minutes

n = 90 / 90 = 1 replication period

yeast_cell_count_at_time_t = 200 billion * 2^1 = 400 billion cells, where the symbol “^” denotes raised to the power of

After ninety minutes of exponential growth, the culture has doubled in size.

Let’s extend time_t to six hours, which equals three hundred and sixty minutes.

n = 360 / 90 = 4

yeast_cell_count_at_time_t = 200,000,000,000 (200 billion) * 2^4 = 3,200,000,000,000 (3.2 trillion) cells

After four replication periods, the cell count is now sixteen times larger than it was when it was pitched. Herein, lies the explosive power of exponential growth.

We can determine the number of replication periods necessary to reach a target cell count given an initial cell count by re-writing the equation to solve for n. We will refer to the variable n as the number_of_replication_periods and the variable cell_count_at_time_t as target_cell_count in our re-written equation.

number_of_replication_periods = log (target_cell_count / initial_cell_count) / log(2)

Let’s set target_cell_count to 3.2 trillion and initial_cell_count to 200 billion to verify that the formula produces the number 4 for the number of replication periods.

number_of_replication_periods = log (3,200,000,000,000 / 200,000,000,000) / log(2) = 4

With that said, the yeast calculator that we used for our latest recipe determined that we needed to pitch 200 billion cells. Our culture only contains 150 billion cells. How much impact will underpitching by 50 billion cells make in the amount of time necessary to reach maximum cell density for 5 gallons, which is approximately 3.8 trillion cells?

number_of_replication_periods = log (3,800,000,000,000 / 200,000,000,000) / log(2) = ~4.25

number_of_replication_periods = log (3,800,000,000,000 / 150,000,000,000) / log(2) = ~4.66

As long as there is enough oxygen in solution to support cellular health, the difference in exponential growth time between pitching 150 billion cells and 200 billion cells is 4.66 – 4.25 = 0.41 * 90 = ~37 minutes.

Okay, let’s pitch half of the number of cells that our yeast calculator computed.

number_of_replication_periods = log (3,800,000,000,000 / 100,000,000,000) / log(2) = ~5.25

Once again, as long as there is enough oxygen in solution to support cellular health, the difference in exponential growth time between pitching 100 billion cells and 200 billion cells is 5.25 – 4.25 = 1.0 * 90 = 90 minutes.

As one can clearly see, underpitching by as much as 50% only lengthens the exponential growth phase by 90 minutes. The key is to ensure that there is adequate dissolved oxygen to support cellular health when underpitching, as there is almost always enough carbon (sugar is carbon bound to water; hence, the term carbohydrate). While brewing species within the Saccharomyces genus do not respire in brewer’s wort due to being Crabtree positive, they do use oxygen for ergosterol and unsaturated fatty acid (UFA) biosynthesis by shunting oxygen and a small amount of carbon to the respirative metabolic pathway during the lag phase. These compounds are used by cells to maintain their plasma membranes. Plasma membrane health determines how well a yeast cell can take in nutrients and expel waste through its cell wall.

If yeast cultures are like nuclear weapons, why do we have pitching guidelines? Well, most pitching guidelines are for slurry, not laboratory grown yeast. Slurry is a mixture of various age cells that have been through one or more fermentations. These cells have been subjected to ethanol and brewery-related environmental stress. Most starters are grown from laboratory-cultured yeast. Laboratory-prepared growth media and environmental conditions are designed to maximize biomass growth while minimizing stress.

With that said, there is a significant challenge that places a lower bound on our pitched cell count; namely, sanitation. No real-world brewery is sterile. Airborne microflora has an opportunity to contaminate a culture or a medium every time it is exposed to air. Residual surface contamination from less than adequate cleaning and/or sanitation increases the chance of wild microflora gaining a foothold in a fermentation. Bacteria are the biggest threat because they too grow exponentially, but their replication period is one third that of yeast; hence, the bacteria cell count increases by a factor of eight every time the yeast cell count doubles. If we normalize the bacteria growth model to that of the yeast growth model, we end up with the equation shown below.

bacteria_cell_count_at_time_t = initial_bacteria_cell_count * 8n, where n equals the number of minutes that have elapsed since the beginning of the exponential phase divided by the yeast replication period

Since the bacteria cell count doubles in one third of the amount of time that it takes the yeast cell count to double, the bacteria cell count grows at a rate of 2^3 every time the yeast cell count grows at a rate of 2^1.

To give readers an idea of how this difference allows a tiny number of bacteria cells to overtake a larger number of yeast cells, let’s calculate the 2n and 8n multipliers out to 16 yeast eplication periods (n = 1 to 16).

Cell count multiplier for the 2n growth pattern = 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384, 32768, 65536

Cell count multiplier for the 8n growth pattern = 8, 64, 512, 4096, 32768, 262144, 2097152, 16777216, 134217728, 1073741824858993459268719476736549755813888439804651110435184372088832281474976710656

After sixteen yeast replication periods, the yeast cell count can be as much as 65,536 times larger than it was when we started whereas the bacteria cell count can be as much as a whopping 281,474,976,710,656 times larger than when we started, that is, if there is sufficient carbon, oxygen, and space to support that much growth. Herein, lies the reason why we need to pitch a large number of cells. We want our yeast culture to rapidly shutdown the replication of competitors by dominating a batch of wort. In modern vernacular, we want the culture to “own” the wort to the extent that nothing else stands a chance of tainting our controlled spoilage process. However, that feat can be easily accomplished with modern commercial yeast cultures without having to worry about pitching a precise number of yeast cells.

In closing, hopefully readers have gained an understanding of the explosive nature of exponential growth. Exponential growth can basically erase a difference in cell counts that is less then a factor of two, and make up to a factor of four difference in cell counts insignificant, which is why yeast cultures are like nuclear weapons. There are even times when we want to purposely underpitch, but that is a topic for a future blog entry.

 

Episode 125 – Double and Triple Your IPA

IPA rules the roost of the Craft Beer world and in this episode, we're exploring a variation of of the fundamental Double IPA – Pliny For President and then talking with Graciany about his Triple IPA and just how long it lived in cold storage. Come taste the hops!
Episode Links:
BYO Bootcamp: https://byo.com/product/homebrew-experiments-online-boot-camp-with-drew-…
Side Lot & Hersey's – https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/12/22/hersheys-side-lot-brewery-mil…
Sonata Beer Labs carrying Escarpment Labs in the US – https://www.sonatabeerlabs.com/
Drewrys – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drewrys
Tilt (Drew's new Toy) – https://tilthydrometer.com/
What are your Resolutions? – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/2021resolutions
Graciany's Triple IPA – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/recipes/gracianys-triple-ipa
Nerd of the Rings – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW0gH2G-cMKAEjEkI4YhnPA
Escape to the Chateau (HGTV – Channel 4 in the UK) – https://www.hgtv.com/shows/escape-to-the-chateau-hgtv/episodes
World Central Kitchen – https://wck.org/
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Opening & Our Sponsors
00:02:53 Announcements & Feedback
00:11:06 The Pub
00:31:00 The Library
00:44:00 The Brewery
00:51:40 The Lounge – Radiant Beer Co
01:43:50 Q&A
01:51:02 Quick Tip & Something Other Than Beer
This episode is brought to you by:

American Homebrewers Association
BrewCraft USA
Brewing America
Craftmeister
Jaded Brewing
Mecca Grade Estate Malt
Wyeast Labs
YCH Hops

Interested in helping Denny and Drew with the IGOR program (aka help us run experiments!) – contact them at igor@experimentalbrew.com. We want more Citizen Science!
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Brew Files – Episode 94 – REPLAY – Water, Water Everywhere

While Drew is getting his ducks in a row for the next series of shows – It's Replay time! And since we've been getting a lot of water questions, what better place to revist, than Martin's episode all about Bru'n water!
The Brew is Out There! TECHNIQUE SHOW
Water is an important chemical – without it we wouldn't have beer! And for something that comprises so much of our beer, the chemistry we need to know to brew our best beer is Daunting – with a capital D. Drew sits down with Martin Brungard, creator of Bru'n Water, to demystify water chemistry and realize the functionality of Martin's mathmagical spreadsheet.
Links
Bru'n Water: https://www.brunwater.com/
Ward Lab: http://www.wardlab.com/ (Note the best test today is the W-5A)
Drew's Sample Report: https://www.experimentalbrew.com/sites/default/files/WardReport-Pasadena…

This episode is brought to you by:

American Homebrewers Association

Brewers Publications

Atlantic Brew Supply (Discount Code: BrewFiles)
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Episode 124b – Holiday 2020

This has been a long strange year and Denny and Drew just wanted to stop in for a few minutes and say thank you for continuing to listen and be a part of the beery world. We're reflecting on some of our favorite things this year – what have been some of yours? Email at podcast@experimentalbrew.com

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Episode 124 – Radiantly Reopening

As we've entered a less rapidly growing beer market, it's inevitable that some breweries will close. What does it take to walk into an existing brewery and retool it and revamp it's image? Drew sits down with the team behind the soon to open, Radiant Brewing of Anaheim to find out what it takes and how their shared history at the Bruery may help!
Episode Links:
Guinness 0 recall – https://www.guinness.com/en-ie/our-beers/guinness-0.0/#:~:text=GUINNESS%…
COVID good for DIPA sales? – https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/sightlines/2020/10/15/covid-19-accelerat…
Run the Jewels as a Beer Brand – https://www.foodandwine.com/news/run-the-jewels-beer-collaborations-albu…
Shelton Brothers Bankrupt – https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/sightlines/2020/11/5/shelton-brothers-ce…
High Denisty Hop Charging and Hop Dipping – https://vinepair.com/articles/hdhc-ipa-hop-trend/
How the FDA allowed nutritional information on the label – https://www.yoursforgoodfermentables.com/2013/06/decades-later-bert-gran…
Radiant Beer Co – https://www.radiantbeer.com/
Stay by E Jade Lomax – https://ejadelomax.itch.io/stay
Inklewriter – https://www.inklestudios.com/inklewriter/
World Central Kitchen – https://wck.org/
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Opening & Our Sponsors
00:02:53 Announcements & Feedback
00:11:06 The Pub
00:31:00 The Library
00:44:00 The Brewery
00:51:40 The Lounge – Radiant Beer Co
01:43:50 Q&A
01:51:02 Quick Tip & Something Other Than Beer
This episode is brought to you by:

American Homebrewers Association
BrewCraft USA
Brewing America
Craftmeister
Jaded Brewing
Mecca Grade Estate Malt
Wyeast Labs
YCH Hops

Interested in helping Denny and Drew with the IGOR program (aka help us run experiments!) – contact them at igor@experimentalbrew.com. We want more Citizen Science!
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Shaken, not Stirred: The Stir Plate Myth Buster

Introduction

When I started to brew in early 1993, no one I knew used a stir plate. That count included all of the hardcore amateur brewers I knew at that point in time and throughout my first pass through the hobby.  I brewed all-grain beer and maintained a yeast bank on agar slants for over a decade before taking a hiatus to focus on my family.  When I came back to the hobby in 2013, everyone was using a stir plate and proclaiming that a stir plate was a “must have” if one was going to make starters.  My experience with yeast cultures did not align with this assertion.  However, being inquisitive, I played along and purchased a stir plate and bar.  The performance of my cultures did not match what was promised. The media was so foul smelling after turning off the stir plate that I ditched it and went back to my old way of making a starter.

This blog entry covers yeast propagation in general, claims made by proponents of stir plates, and my method of making and handling a starter.  My method is not the do all, be all yeast starter method, but it provides a simpler, lower cost way of making a starter that performs just as well, if not better than one made using a stir plate.

Yeast Propagation

The goal of yeast propagation is to transform a small number of yeast cells into a larger number of cells.  There are two basic types of propagation; namely, batch and continuous.  Propagation that is performed in steps with each step increasing the number of cells is known as “batch propagation.”  Propagation where an initial seed culture starts replication with a continuous flow of new culturing medium and O2 entering the process with new yeast cells continuously existing the process is known as, wait for it, “continuous propagation.”  Continuous propagation is significantly more complex than batch propagation.

Batch Propagation

Brewers and liquid culture propagators use what is known as batch propagation.  Batch propagation is used when the medium is above the Crabtree threshold, which is 0.2% w/v (a specific gravity of 1.0008).  The Crabtree effect states that whenever the medium is above the Crabtree threshold, Crabtree positive yeast cells will replicate using their anaerobic (fermentative) metabolic pathway even in the presence of O2.  All brewing yeast strains are Crabtree positive.  Brewing yeast cells never truly respire when grown in a medium that is above the Crabtree threshold.  Instead, they shunt O and a small amount of carbon (sugar is carbon bound to water) to the aerobic (respirative) metabolic pathway for the production of ergosterol and unsaturated fatty acids (UFA) during the lag phase.  Ergosterol (the plant equivalent of cholesterol) and UFAs keep cell plasma membranes pliable, which, in turn, allow sugar and waste products to pass through these membranes.

Continuous Propagation

Unlike batch yeast propagation, dry yeast propagators use continuous propagation.  They do so using something known as a bioreactor.  A bioreactor can keep the medium in a steady state below the Crabtree threshold while continuously supplying O2 .  The medium is stirred to keep it homogenous.  The stirring action creates shear stress, which is detrimental to yeast cell wall health.  However, it is necessary to keep the medium in a steady state.  Keeping the medium oxygenated in a steady state below the Crabtree threshold results in yeast cells using their much more efficient aerobic (respirative) metabolic pathway for reproduction.  Ethanol, higher alcohols, and esters are the result of the inefficient conversion of carbon to energy in fermentation.  These compounds are all carbon based; therefore, we can think of them as the yeast cell metabolism equivalent of incomplete combustion.  The byproducts of respiration are COgas and water.  Yeast cells derive two ATP (adenosine triphosphate) per glucose via fermentation and eighteen ATP per glucose via respiration (ATP is what powers yeast cells).  In effect, the respirative metabolic pathway is nine times more efficient than the fermentative metabolic pathway.  What this increase in carbon utilization means to dry yeast producers is that they can use less carbon than liquid yeast propagators for any given cell count.  Not only that, yeast cells propagated via the respirative metabolic pathway have fully charged ergosterol and UFA reserves when they are pitched, which significantly reduces initial dissolved O2 requirements, usually completely alleviating the need to oxygenate wort.

Claims Made by Proponents of Stir Plates

If I had a dollar for every time a new brewer was advised to purchase a stir plate for making yeast starters, I would be able to build a very nice custom brew house.  As mentioned above, a stir plate has become a “must have” piece of equipment after a new brewer advances beyond the kit beer stage.  In my humble opinion, a stir plate is a “not needed” piece of brewing equipment.   What bothers me are the claims made when discussing stir plates, none of which appear to be grounded in science.  That being said, let’s examine claims made by proponents of stir plates.

Oxygenation

It is claimed that stir plates oxygenate yeast cultures.  However, anyone who has studied physics and chemistry knows that the shape of an Erlenmeyer flask does not lend itself to Oabsorption.  The conical shape of an Erlenmeyer flask combined with its rapidly narrowing cone leads to a small specific surface area in which Ocan be absorbed.  People claim that spinning the bar fast enough to create a vortex improves oxygenation.  To a point, that claim is true because it results in an increase in specific surface area.  However, doing so comes at a cost to yeast cell wall health due to shear stress caused by the spinning bar (i.e., the spinning bar is a source of friction for the yeast cells in a starter).  Shear stress is something that has been well studied when it comes to the production of dry yeast.

Cell Suspension

Many amateur brewers use the argument that stir plates keep yeast cells in suspension.  This claim is true, but the cells that a stir plate keeps in suspension are non-viable and cells prone to early flocculation, neither of which are desirable. The counter to this argument is that brewing yeast cells do not need to be stirred to remain in suspension because they express the NewFlo phenotype.  NewFlo yeast strains do not flocculate until they have consumed all of the mannose, maltose, sucrose, glucose and the sugars that they can reduce to one of these four sugars in the wort, including maltotriose, which is composed of three glucose molecules bound by two glycosidic bonds (a molecule of maltotriose is first reduced to a molecule of glucose and a molecule of maltose, which is then reduced to two molecules of glucose).

Higher Cell Count

The reality is that all propagation mediums have a maximum cell density that places an upper bound on the number of viable cells that can be produced given a specific volume.  The generally accepted rule of thumb in brewing is two hundred billion cells per liter. The amount of yeast sediment available after a yeast culture has entered quiescence and sedimented does not matter.  What matters is the number of viable cells in the yeast sediment.

Healthier Yeast

There is not a more troubling claim in amateur brewing than stir plates produce healthier cultures. Not only is this claim wrong, the practice of allowing a starter to enter quiescence and settle out, so foul smelling medium that is the result of stressed yeast cells can be decanted misses the point.  What we are doing when creating a starter and then pitching it into a larger batch of wort is known as step propagation.  Allowing a starter to ferment out places the cells in a quiescent state where they have undergone morphological changes to guard against starvation.  An important morphological change that occurs is thickening of the cell wall.  That morphological change occurs in order to extend the time between sedimentation and autolysis, which occurs when a cell wall breaks down and releases the contents of a cell.  Allowing a culture to enter quiescence extends lag time because the cells have to reverse the morphological changes they underwent before they can go about replenishing their ergosterol and UFA reserves.

Shaken, not Stirred

I remember the pushback I received when I introduced the Shaken, not Stirred method for making and pitching a starter on the American Homebrewers Association forum.  The response I received made me feel like I had slapped someone’s puppy.  People could not believe that something so simple could perform as well, if not better than a stirred culture.  However, one by one, forum members started to give my starter method a shot.  It was like the floodgates of acceptance opened after Denny Conn gave it a shot and wrote about his experience.  Let’s discuss how SNS came about and why it works so well while being simple and low cost.

Background

The Shaken, not Stirred (SNS) method of making a starter is something that I stumbled upon in the early nineties.  It was the result of being much stronger than I am today due to being a gym rat in my twenties and early thirties.  SNS started out as just a way to disperse yeast cells after inoculating a starter.  I was using a repurposed forty-eight fluid ounce Ocean Spray glass container to make quart-size starters. That container broke one day, so I used the only other glass container I had on hand with a screw on cap, which was a one-gallon glass jug.

Specific Surface Area

After I switched to using a one-gallon jug for making quart-size starters, I noticed that the increased volume of the container combined with intense shaking resulted in a large portion of the medium being transformed into foam.  The difference in lag time and fermentation strength appeared immediately.  However, it took a couple of months before the engineering side of my brain recognized why the SNS method produced a higher quality starter. The secret sauce is the large amount specific surface area provided by foam, which allows for significantly more O2 absorption than the standard air to liquid interface.  In essence, SNS is a poor man’s Obottle.  One can achieve the same result with an  O2  bottle and a diffusion stone.  It is just that SNS achieves this feat in a much simpler, lower cost way.

Pitch Timing

With that said, it is not just the shaking in the SNS method that leads to a higher quality starter.  It is the fact that the method involves pitching the entire starter at high krausen.  High krausen is the point where the culture switches over from exponential growth to the stationary phase where replication is for replacement only.  Allowing a culture to ferment beyond this point results in wasted ergosterol and UFA reserves.  These compounds are produced during the lag phase and are shared by mother cells with all of their daughter cells.  We do not want to allow a starter tor ferment past high krausen because doing so will result in extended lag times and higher initial Orequirements in order to allow mother cells to rebuild the ergosterol and UFA reserves that were wasted on replacement replication during the stationary phase.  Remember, yeast cells are in a battle with bacteria cells for ownership of the wort and bacteria cells replicate three times in the period of time that is required for the yeast cells to replicate; therefore, anything we can do to shorten the lag phase is beneficial to fermentation.

Closing Remarks

The “stir plates produce higher viable cell counts and healthier yeast cultures than other methods” myth is just that, a myth.  Every starter volume has a maximum cell density, which if met before available sources of carbon have been depleted cannot be exceeded.  My suggestion is to give the SNS starter method a try.  All one needs is a sanitizable container that is at least four times the volume of the starter wort (I use a five liter media bottle for one liter starters).  The starter medium can be shaken before or after pitching.  It depends on one’s threshold for yeast cell stress becase the initial shake needs to be performed like the starter wort owes one money.  For people new to this technique, I recommend pitching after shaking.  If one pitches after shaking, the starter will need to be shaken a second time to disperse the cells, albeit much more gently.   The goal is to attempt to transform as much of the starter wort into foam as is humanly possible. The photo shown below is my old five-liter media bottle (there was a liter of liquid before the shake).

 

 

Brew Files – Episode 93 – The LateFaire

The Brew is Out There!
The Maltose Falcons Mayfaire has been running at least since1978 so we're not going to let a once in a century pandemic break our streak! In this episode you'll hear about the winning beers from Gary Elliot of F.O.A.M. and Jeff Kohler of the Yeastside Brewers, who placed third and first overall in the competition. You'll also hear feedback from the actual judges and Best of Show panelists about why they chose those particular beers as winning examples!
Links:
The Recipes: https://slides.com/drewbeechum/craftinganawardwinningbeer
The Compeitition Results: https://competitions.maltosefalcons.com/2020Mayfaire/
F.O.A.M. – https://alemakers.org/
The Yeastside Brewers – https://yeastsidebrewers.org/
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Episode 123 – Hop Confusion with Mike Brennan

If you can't tell by the number of hop conversations going on – things are wild and changing in the hop world. We're sitting down with Mike Brennan of BSG to get his take on what's changing and what you need to know! (And we suspect we'll be talking even more with him!
Episode Links:
Fermentis DA-16 – https://fermentis.com/en/fermentation-solutions/you-create-beer/safbrew-…
Campbell's Meme – https://img.ifunny.co/images/fbd4ba87b4ad073be7fbae477b8e77679ddb1d96e4e…
All About Beer Website Gone – https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/2020/10/28/and-poof-all-about-beer…
The Wayback Archive – https://web.archive.org/web/*/allaboutbeer.com
Guinness 0 Being Launched – https://vinepair.com/booze-news/guinness-alcohol-free-stout-release/
Ommegang Has To Reconsider Its Belgian Past – https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/sightlines/2020/10/30/ommegang-has-to-re…
Brewer's Book Club on Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/groups/754108348475546/
The Forager Yeast from Yeast Bay – https://www.theyeastbay.com/wild-capture/forager
BSG Craftbrewing – https://bsgcraftbrewing.com/
Karen O & Willie Nelson – “Under Pressure” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEU-7uga_4A
World Central Kitchen – https://wck.org/
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Opening & Our Sponsors
00:02:19 Announcements & Feedback
00:10:46 The Pub
00:27:47 The Brewery
00:37:26 The Lounge – Mike Brennan
01:30:59 Quick Tip & Something Other Than Beer
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Brew Files – Episode 92 – Kiley's “Grewit” Gruit

The Brew is Out There!
Kiley's back and talking about using herbs and spices in her beers! We're specifically focusing on her Mecca Grade “Brewing Man” Best of Show Winning “Grewit” Gruit her “Deep Roots” Porter. Want to make a beer with eomse other flavors – look no further!
Links:
Grew-it Gruit – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/recipes/oregon-brewing-woman-grew-it
Deep Roots Recipe – https://blog.mountainroseherbs.com/adventures-home-brewing
Mountain Rose Herbs – https://mountainroseherbs.com/
Kiley's Book Reccomendations
Practical for beginners
• Homebrewers Almanac – Scratch Brewing – great for getting to know the botanicals in their book
• Brewing Local – Stan Hieronymus
• Against All Hops – Butch Heilshorn
More advanced brewers
• Ancient Brews & Uncorking the Past – Patrick McGovern
• The Wildcrafting Brewer – Pascal Baudar
• Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers – Stephen Harrod Buhner
Herbal and Bitters books
• Wild Drinks and Cocktails – Emily Han
• The Drunken Botanist – Amy Stewart
• Bitters – Brad Thomas Parsons
• Hand Crafted Bitters – Will Budiaman
• DIY Bitters – Guido Mase & Jovial King
Books I’ve heard great things about
• Artisanal Small-Batch Brewing – Amber Shehan (Pixie’s Pocket blog)
• Sweet Remedies – Dawn Combs
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Episode 122 – German Pils Via Michigan

Our homebrewing friends, Jeff and Susan Rankert have nursed a life long love of Germany and German beers and it shows when you talk to them about their brewery trips. A few months back, we sent them some Mecca Grade malt to try and they sent us break a pils inspired by one of their favorite German brewers. Grab a cold one – it's drinking time!
Episode Links:
Catch up on Yakima Virtual Hop & Brew School – https://hopandbrewschool.com/
Garret Oliver Interview – https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/2020/10/2/giving-bipoc-brewers-an-…
Stone Brewing Searching For an Identity – https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/sightlines/2020/9/14/stone-brewing-searc…
Lallemand Pushes into Low/No Alcohol Brewing – https://www.lallemandbrewing.com/en/united-states/news/solutions-for-the…
Grainfather G70 Review – https://grainfather.com/grainfather-g70/
The Schönramer Pils Recipe Inspiration – https://beerandbrewing.com/recipe-schoenramer-isch-pils/
Dave Grohl's Theme Song for Nandi – https://twitter.com/foofighters/status/1305517568946438144
My Mechanics on YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/c/mymechanics
Australian Scienstist Solving the Grandfather Paradox – https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/time-travel-po…
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Opening & Our Sponsors
00:02:24 Announcements & Feedback
00:15:42 The Pub
00:36:25 The Brewery
00:54:46 The Lounge – Rankert Pils
01:30:33 Quick Tip & Something Other Than Beer
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Tour the Grainfather G70

I’ve been fortunate to have a loaner Grainfather G70 to brew on the last couple months.Although I had some initial misgiving about using a system that can brew 15 gal. batches, I’ve found that the design and build quality make it so easy to use that it’s been a joy to brew on.  Here’s a look at the system and my thoughts on it.

Brew Files – Episode 91 – Scott's Hops, Part 2

The Brew is Out There!
e're back with Scott Janish, co founder of Sapwood Cellars and the author of the New IPA. Last time we talked the basics of hop chemistry. Now in this part, we're talking all about survivables, why cold dry hopping works and giving you Scott's keys to make a fruit forward IPA, before we delve into questions from the crowd.
Links:
Scott Janish – http://scottjanish.com/
The New IPA – https://www.amazon.com/New-IPA-Scientific-Guide-Flavor/dp/0578477866/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+new+IPA&qid=1597216214&sr=8-1

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Episode 121 – A Wee Cider

We're back! And this time, it's tasting time as Denny drops one of the oddest beers he's known for on Drew's palate – the infamous Wee Shroomy, a Chantrelle infused Wee Heavy. It's rich and fruity and surprising. Drew also tries Denny's pink hued Crabapple cider. All that and the news!
Episode Links:
Yakima Virtual Hop & Brew School – https://hopandbrewschool.com/
Nature Journal – Alternative Careers – https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02404-3
Aluminium Shortage – https://www.westword.com/restaurants/ska-and-oskar-blues-breweries-find-…
Genessee Dry Hop – https://amp.whec.com/articles/genesee-releasing-hoppy-version-of-cream-a…
Brett Harder to Kill – http://www.milkthefunk.com/wiki/Quality_Assurance#Viable_But_Nonculturable
The Pilspalson Returns – https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/900620/pilpalsion
Freya's Gold – https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/1019582/freya-s-gold
Grainfather G70 – https://grainfather.com/grainfather-g70/
Wee Shroomy Recipe – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/blogs/denny/return-wee-shroomy
Gotham Central – https://www.comixology.com/Gotham-Central/comics-series/3035?ref=c2VhcmN…
Lazarus – https://www.comixology.com/Lazarus/comics-series/10378?ref=c2VhcmNoL2luZ…
Floor is Lava – https://www.netflix.com/watch/81189744
Old Guard – https://www.netflix.com/watch/81038963
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Opening & Our Sponsors
00:02:33 Announcements & Feedback
00:14:14 The Pub
00:29:46 The Library
00:39:58 The Brewery
00:57:49 The Lounge – Wee Shroomy & Crapapple Cider
01:30:35 Q&A
01:43:25 Quick Tip & Something Other Than Beer
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Brew Files – Episode 90 – Scott's Hops, Part 1

The Brew is Out There!
In this first part of America's favorite topic, Drew talks with Scott Janish about his fascination with the leafy green beer herb and the newly emerging (and sometimes forgotten) science of hops. (and where to find more information for yourself!)
Links:
Scott Janish – http://scottjanish.com/
The New IPA – https://www.amazon.com/New-IPA-Scientific-Guide-Flavor/dp/0578477866/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+new+IPA&qid=1597216214&sr=8-1
American Society of Brewing Chemists – https://www.asbcnet.org/
Brewing Science Institute – https://www.brewingscience.com/
Google Scholar – https://scholar.google.com/

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Episode 120 – The Answer is Brewing in the Wind

We're back! And as is always the case for the 12th show of a cycle, we make like Carnac the Magnificent by way of the Tappet Brothers. We've got a whole field of q's to run through, so let's get to it! (And don't forget you can always give us more info and ask us more questions at podcast@expreimentalbrew.com!)
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Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Opening & Our Sponsors
00:02:19 Announcements & Feedback
00:11:28 Hops Questions
00:21:27 Ingredients Questions
00:41:54 Mash Questions
00:53:42 Process Questions
01:23:25 Yeast Questions
01:46:50 Miscellaneous
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Brew Files – Episode 89 – Milk The Funk

The Brew is Out There!
Many of the lessons that we learn as brewers, particularly as homebrewers, are of the “eh, this is the way it's been done historically”. And it feels like that's truer nowhere else but in mixed culture brewing. The gang at Milk the Funk are trying to bring the science to sour beer and you can witness the awe inspiring efforts behind their wiki. We're talking to Dan Pixley, the primary maintainer of the Wiki, about things he's learned and been surprised about over the years!
Links:
Milk the Funk: http://www.milkthefunk.com/
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Episode 119 – A Whole Bunch of Brewing

As we prep for the online version of HomeBrewCon, it's time for Denny and Drew to sit down and talk the results of their various brewing projects and new brewing toys and things for you to watch/listen to! Any fails? Any great successes? You'll just have to listen!
And don't forget to join us online for HomeBrewCon!
Episode Links:
HomeBrewCon Online – https://www.homebrewcon.org/
TTB Circular Changes Due to COVID – https://www.ttb.gov/industry-circulars/ttb-industry-circular-2020-3
Portland Brewers Market – https://www.newschoolbeer.com/2020/05/drive-thru-brewers-market-to-kicko…
Jester King COVID Changes – https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/business/jester-king-brewery-coronavirus-…
Counterfeit Cantillon – https://punchdrink.com/articles/covet-counterfeit-brasserie-cantillon-la…
Charlie P in the Smithsonian – https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/charlie-papazian-sparked-ame…
Escarpment Labs YouTube Series – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEyCSmOUfkp_QPH1PClAxVQ
Beer And Brewing Rethinking Farmhouse Ales – https://beerandbrewing.com/amp/more-roads-rethinking-farmhouse-ales/
Becker Invert Syrups – https://www.homebrewing.org/Beckers-Inverted-Brewing-Sugars–3-lbs–Invert-1_p_10334.html
Lallemand Philly Sour – https://www.lallemandbrewing.com/en/australia/product-details/wildbrew-philly-sour/
Time Team – https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07QB9HVRP/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r
This Old House Streaming – https://www.thisoldhouse.com/pages/streaming-app
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Opening & Our Sponsors
00:02:46 Announcements & Feedback
00:13:57 The Pub
00:34:19 The Library
00:42:36 The Brewery
01:00:13 Quick Tip & Something Other Than Beer
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Brew Files – Episode 88 – Julian's IPAs

The Brew is Out There!
Julian Shrago has made a name for himself as he transitioned from award winning homebrewer to award winning brewer at Beachwood Brewing. A big portion of that reputation has been built on a broad swath of well crafted beers, particularly his IPA's. What makes Julian's IPAs his? Sit back and listen!
Links:
Beachwood Brewing Company (now shipping in CA!): http://beachwoodbrewing.com/
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