Brew Files – Episode 9 – Hello Mother, Hello Father

The Brew Is Out There!
RECIPE SHOW
On this week's episode of the Brew Files, it's time to pour one out for the parents in the brew world. Drew sits down with Tiffany Ashrafi, a Los Angeles area homebrewer, beer fanatic and mom-to-be, about her unique spin on making a beer for mom. With Mom covered, Denny and Drew sit down to talk about a beer for dad to have when tots are all grown up
Episode Timeline:
00:01:58 – Tiffany Ashrafi's Boobie Beer
00:17:58 – Drew's Mortgage Killer
Episode Links:
Boobir Beer: https://www.experimentalbrew.com/recipes/boobie-beer
Mortage Killer: https://www.experimentalbrew.com/recipes/mortgage-killer-barleywine
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Brewers Publications
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Episode 39 – Tanning in St. Somewhere

In the pub we congratulate our new members of the Governing Committee; explore what we think of the Brewer's Association recent announcement regarding sexist beer names and celebrate the sort of beery fool hardiness that lead one “intrepid” soul to attempt a beer half-marathon.
In the lab, we take a piece of feedback from a listener about what we did wrong with our BrewTan announcement and then, like a dog with a bone to worry, we decide to revist the results thanks to some new IGOR reports and watch how the numbers change. We'll discuss new directions that we want to explore as well.
Then in the Lounge we visit one of Drew's favorite brewers – Bob Sylvester of St. Somewhere Brewing in Tarpon Springs, FL. Learn just why we have a photo of a pump and a skateboard in the show notes and just how Bob produces “Florida terrior” and what measures he took to preserve it when the brewery moved.
Finally we tackle questions we can answer. Drop a quick tip on ya and explore Drew's new found home companion
Episode Links:
AHA Governing Committee – https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/membership/aha-governing-committee/
BA Announcement – https://www.brewersassociation.org/communicating-craft/brewers-associati…
Beer Half Marathon – https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/04/12/beer-half-marathon-13-miles-…
Anjinomoto's Brewery Products – https://www.natural-specialities.com/brewery.html
BrewTan Writeup – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/experiments/writeups/writeup-brewtan-or…
St. Somewhere Brewing – http://saintsomewherebrewing.com/
San Gabriel Valley Humane Society – http://www.sgvhumane.org/
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Our Sponsors & Announcements
00:10:17 The Pub
00:26:51 The Lab – Revisting BrewTan
00:48:01 The Lounge – Bob Sylvester of Saint Somewhere
01:32:10 Q&A
01:50:00 Quick Tip
01:52:27 Something Other Than Beer
This episode is brought to you by:

American Homebrewers Association

BrewCraft USA Craftmeister
Jaded Brewing
Mecca Grade Estate Malt
PicoBrew
Wyeast Labs

Interested in helping Denny and Drew with the IGOR program (aka help us run experiments!) – contact them at igor@experimentalbrew.com. We want more Citizen Science!
In the meanwhile, subscribe via your favorite podcasting service (iTunes, etc). Like our podcast, review it – talk it up! If you have comments, feedbacks, harassments, etc, feel free to drop us a line at podcast@experimentalbrew.com. Follow us on Facebook (ExperimentalHomebrewing) or Twitter (@ExpBrewing). If you have questions you'd like answered in our Q&A segment, send an email to questions@experimentalbrew.com!
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Brew Files – Episode 8 – Down Under with Peter Symons

The Brew Is Out There!
STYLE SHOW
On this week's episode of the Brew Files, Drew sits down with Peter Symons, the author of Bronzed Brews – a collection of recipes and research of Australia's fascinating history of brewing. We talk about the experience of delving into brewery archives. Why Foster's isn't Australian for beer. How historical Australian beers were brewed (what their goals were, etc) Lastly, we'll even grab some tips and tricks for making your recreations spot on!
Episode Links:
Bronzed Brews on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bronzedbrews/
Buy Bronzed Brews from Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/shop/peter-symons/bronzed-brews/paperback/product-22…
Tooth's Crystal Ale Recipe: https://www.experimentalbrew.com/recipes/tooths-crystal-ale-1917
White Labs Yeast Vault: https://www.whitelabs.com/yeast-vault
Kris England's Invert Syrup Method: http://www.unholymess.com/blog/beer-brewing-info/making-brewers-invert/c…
This episode is brought to you by:

Brewers Publications
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Episode 38 – Gluten Free Tanning

Stand back everyone and hold our beer – we're going for a shorter show today! (Suspect Denny might need a temporary break from editing or something)
We do the feedback circuit, including a visit to the Correctional Department of Corrections, and then hit the pub for our recollections of Session Beer Day, some of our favorite April Fool's pranks from brewers (including one that wasn't actually a prank) and the upcoming Big Brew
In the lab, we finally have our results in from our BrewTan B experiment that we started last year. What do the guys make of the results and we talk with Joe Formanek of Anjinomoto about what they mean.
Then in the Lounge we actually visit a question that came in from a listener about her challenges making truly gluten free beer. Since neither of us are gluten free experts, we rope in an actual expert – James Neumeister of Portland's Ground Breaker Brewery, a gluten free brewery.
Finally we tackle questions we can answer. Drop a quick tip on ya and explore one reason Drew would have something positive to say about the New York Yankees. (No, hell has not frozen over and yes, it involves dogs.)
Episode Links:
Brewer's Experment with Basic Beer – http://www.newschoolbeer.com/2017/04/brewers-experimenting-basic-beer.html
AHA's Pale-Ale-Eo Diet – https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/news/introducing-pale-ale-eo-diet/
Oregon Grey Ale: https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=29110.0
Offshoot Brewing – aka the not April Fool's April Fools Announcement – https://www.offshootbeer.com/
Anjinomoto's Brewery Products – https://www.natural-specialities.com/brewery.html
Ground Breaker Brewing – https://www.groundbreakerbrewing.com/
Jay's Bags – https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-1739/Poly-Bags-Flat-Open/18-x-36-…
Trenton Thunder's Bat Dogs – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k9Kag-pmDo
San Gabriel Valley Humane Society – http://www.sgvhumane.org/
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Our Sponsors
00:05:10 Feedback
00:11:12 The Pub
00:23:21 The Lab – BrewTan B – Does it make a difference to flavor?
00:50:31 The Lounge – Gluten Free Brewing with James Neumeister
01:02:51 Q&A
01:12:29 Quick Tip
01:14:38 Something Other Than Beer
This episode is brought to you by:

American Homebrewers Association

BrewCraft USA Craftmeister
Jaded Brewing
Mecca Grade Estate Malt
PicoBrew
Wyeast Labs

Interested in helping Denny and Drew with the IGOR program (aka help us run experiments!) – contact them at igor@experimentalbrew.com. We want more Citizen Science!
In the meanwhile, subscribe via your favorite podcasting service (iTunes, etc). Like our podcast, review it – talk it up! If you have comments, feedbacks, harassments, etc, feel free to drop us a line at podcast@experimentalbrew.com. Follow us on Facebook (ExperimentalHomebrewing) or Twitter (@ExpBrewing). If you have questions you'd like answered in our Q&A segment, send an email to questions@experimentalbrew.com!
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Brew Files – Episode 7 – Extract with Jay

The Brew Is Out There!
INGREDIENT SHOW
On this week's episode of the Brew Files, Drew and Denny hit the phones with Jay Ankeney, a long time homebrewer in Los Angeles who's been brewing longer than most of us. And interestingly – Jay still brews with extract and grains. Why does he still brew with extract? What are some of his tips and tricks and what does he do that either agrees or disagrees with prevailing wisdom. Well, you're going to have to listen!
Episode Links:
Jay's New Easy Beer – http://amzn.to/2nGznAQ
2 mil Poly Bags – https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-1739/Poly-Bags-Flat-Open/18-x-36-…
Jay's Duplex Lager – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/recipes/jays-duplex-lager
This episode is brought to you by:

Brewers Publications
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Episode 37 – Answering Disaster's Call

A little different show this week and we warn you – it's a long one! We hit three main topics today, but first feedback.
With April Fool's Day right around the corner, it's time to explore how foolish we brewers are with a bunch of disasters stories! Stay safe people!
Then it's back to the Jeopardy stage where we questions answers about Recipes, Water and Troubleshooting – wait, strke that, reserve it.
And then – we talk with Gary Glass of the AHA about the Governing Committee and the election. Final votes are due by 3/31! So stick around and listen to the candidates! (Special Thanks to the Brewing Network for providing the statements!)
Episode Links:
Cory's Malt Database Link: https://www.homebrewsupply.com/learn/homebrew-malt-comparison-chart.html
Drew's Season of Saisons – https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0000/2499/MJzym08_Sai…
Cookie Celebration Ale – https://www.maltosefalcons.com/recipes/oatmeal-raisin-cookie-celebration…
AHA Governing Committee Election – https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/membership/aha-governing-committe…
San Gabriel Valley Humane Society – http://www.sgvhumane.org/
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Our Sponsors
00:03:17 Support the Podcast
00:04:44 Feedback
00:09:10 Disaster Stories
00:44:36 Questions – Recipes & Styles
01:06:32 Questions – Water
01:18:00 Questions – Troubleshooting & Other
01:44:03 Gary Glass & Governing Committee Statements
This episode is brought to you by:

American Homebrewers Association

BrewCraft USA Craftmeister
Jaded Brewing
Mecca Grade Estate Malt
PicoBrew
Wyeast Labs

Interested in helping Denny and Drew with the IGOR program (aka help us run experiments!) – contact them at igor@experimentalbrew.com. We want more Citizen Science!
In the meanwhile, subscribe via your favorite podcasting service (iTunes, etc). Like our podcast, review it – talk it up! If you have comments, feedbacks, harassments, etc, feel free to drop us a line at podcast@experimentalbrew.com. Follow us on Facebook (ExperimentalHomebrewing) or Twitter (@ExpBrewing). If you have questions you'd like answered in our Q&A segment, send an email to questions@experimentalbrew.com!
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Brew Files – Episode 6 – Zen and the Art of Recipe Design

The Brew Is Out There!
PROCESS SHOW
On this week's episode of the Brew Files, Drew and Denny tackle a question dropped on Facebook by listener Dan Tomkins. Dan asked just how do we tackle a new recipe – something we've never brewed before? Well, sit back and we'll walk you through just how we do the voodoo that is recipe creation.
Episode Links:
Greg Noonan's Seven Barrel Brewers Handbook (Drew lied – it's on Amazon!) – http://amzn.to/2mGJ1lO
Greg Noonan's New Lager – http://amzn.to/2mLbho5
Oxford Beer Companion – http://amzn.to/2mGPyNi
100 Years of Brewing (Western Brewer) – http://amzn.to/2n5Br7L
Michael Jackson's Beer Companion – http://amzn.to/2n5vI1J
Brewing Classic Styles – http://amzn.to/2n5nqXz
Scott Janish's Blog – http://scottjanish.com/
BJCP Guidelines – http://bjcp.org/stylecenter.php
Wood Chipper Red Ale – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/recipes/wood-chipper-red-ale
This episode is brought to you by:

Brewers Publications
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Episode 36 – Sticky Hands, Stickier Questions

To start the show, we hit the feedback slush pile, including a voicemail feedback about the Walmart lawsuit.
In the pub, it's a little different today as we sit down with Nick Arzner of Block 15 to drink one of Denny's favorite beers – Sticky Hands IPA. We discuss the origins of the beer and the secrets behind the powerful hop character the beer carries (pro tip – new fancy hop powders)
From there – it's Question time and once again y'all provided so many questions- we're splitting it up! Today we cover Malts, Mashing, Hops and Yeast!
Next episode – even more Questions along with your brewing disasters!
Episode Links:
Block 15 Brewing – http://block15.com/
San Gabriel Valley Humane Society – http://www.sgvhumane.org/
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Our Sponsors
00:03:07 Feedback
00:05:49 Support the Podcast
00:09:07 The Pub – Nick Arzner – Block 15
00:41:34 Questions – Malts & Mashing
00:59:59 Questions – Hops
01:13:05 Questions – Yeast
This episode is brought to you by:

American Homebrewers Association

BrewCraft USA Craftmeister
Jaded Brewing
Mecca Grade Estate Malt
PicoBrew
Wyeast Labs

Interested in helping Denny and Drew with the IGOR program (aka help us run experiments!) – contact them at igor@experimentalbrew.com. We want more Citizen Science!
In the meanwhile, subscribe via your favorite podcasting service (iTunes, etc). Like our podcast, review it – talk it up! If you have comments, feedbacks, harassments, etc, feel free to drop us a line at podcast@experimentalbrew.com. Follow us on Facebook (ExperimentalHomebrewing) or Twitter (@ExpBrewing). If you have questions you'd like answered in our Q&A segment, send an email to questions@experimentalbrew.com!
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Brew Files Podcast Episode 5 – A Batch Job

The Brew Is Out There!

Brew Files – Episode 5 – A Batch Job

Technique Show

On this week's episode of the Brew Files, we look at one of the most popular ways to brew as presented by one of the guys responsible for popularizing it – that's right it's Batch Sparging ala Denny. Come sit down and listen as Denny describes where he learned about batch sparging (no he didn't invent it) and how he got started and how you can brew like the old man too!
Episode Links:
Denny's Batch Sparge Page http://www.dennybrew.com
Lasco Hose Braid http://amzn.to/2mOESNZ
Kai Troester Conversion Efficiency Calculator http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Troubleshooting_Brewhouse_Efficiency#Determining_Conversion_Efficiency
Denny's Original Alt Recipe https://www.experimentalbrew.com/recipes/dennys-original-alt

This episode is brought to you by:

Brewers Publications
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Episode 35 – The Mead Is In Session

We start with a round of feedback including a question about a potentially new style guideline and a reflection on one listener's experiment in making Cool Ranch Beer!

In the pub, rumblings are a foot about the Return of the Wrath of Conn at this year's HomeBrewCon in Minneapolis. We tackle the problematic notion of “fake craft” beer and All About Beer's newly announced policy on sexist beer names.

Over in the library, a brief look at one of Drew's favorite malts – Maris Otter

And in the lounge it's a twofer as we talk again with over favorite Lew – Lew Bryson about 2017's Session Beer Day (April 7th). We encourage you to get ready for it by brewing up a batch of something “small”. And then we leave the land of the small and head back to Fargo where Drew sits down with our good friend and long time BJCP/AHA leader, Susan Ruud, at her meadery – Prarie Rose.

Quick tip comes with video evidence this time – careful when you're degassing folks! And Denny closes us out with a PBS show all about music.

Episode Links:
Walmart – http://www.brewbound.com/news/press-clips-walmart-accused-selling-faux-craft-beers-heineken-purchase-brasil-kirin-holdings
Sexist Beers – http://allaboutbeer.com/article/taking-a-stand-against-sexist-beers/ Maris Otter History – http://www.sprowtmalt.com/2017/02/08/maris-otter/
https://www.experimentalbrew.com/session-beer-day-recipe-bonanza-14-recipes-you-brew
http://sessionbeerproject.blogspot.com/
http://prairierosemeadery.com/
http://soundbreaking.com/
San Gabriel Valley Humane Society – http://www.sgvhumane.org/
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Our Sponsors
00:03:11 Feedback
00:14:14 Support the Podcast
00:17:18 The Pub – Walmart Suit/Sexist Beer Name Policy
00:36:24 The Lounge – Lew Bryson Session Beer Project
00:63:41 The Lounge – Susan Ruud Prairie Rose Meadery
01:43:40 Quick Tip – Degassing Tip
01:56:41 Something Other Than Beer – Soundbreaking
This episode is brought to you by:

American Homebrewers Association

BrewCraft USA Craftmeister
Jaded Brewing
Mecca Grade Estate Malt
PicoBrew
Wyeast Labs

Interested in helping Denny and Drew with the IGOR program (aka help us run experiments!) – contact them at igor@experimentalbrew.com. We want more Citizen Science!
In the meanwhile, subscribe via your favorite podcasting service (iTunes, etc). Like our podcast, review it – talk it up! If you have comments, feedbacks, harassments, etc, feel free to drop us a line at podcast@experimentalbrew.com. Follow us on Facebook (ExperimentalHomebrewing) or Twitter (@ExpBrewing). If you have questions you'd like answered in our Q&A segment, send an email to questions@experimentalbrew.com!
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Brew Files – Episode 4 – The Mighty Oat

The Brew Is Out There!
INGREDIENT SHOW
On this week's episode of the Brew Files, Drew and Denny talk one of Drew's favorite ingredients – oats, their origin, their use, their forms, pitfalls, styles and one of Drew's beloved recipes for Drew's beloved pup – Cookie.
Episode Links:
Thomas Fawcett Oat Malt: http://www.fawcett-maltsters.co.uk/uploads/2/0/2/6/20260333/spec_table_a…
Simpson's Golden Naked Oats: http://www.simpsonsmalt.co.uk/our-malts/golden-naked-oats-gno/
The Original Cookie Celebration Ale: https://www.maltosefalcons.com/recipes/oatmeal-raisin-cookie-celebration…
This episode is brought to you by:

Brewers Publications
Don't forget to subscribe via your favorite podcasting service (iTunes, etc). Like our podcast, review it – talk it up! If you have comments, feedbacks, harassments, etc, feel free to drop us a line at podcast@experimentalbrew.com. Follow us on Facebook (ExperimentalHomebrewing) or Twitter (@ExpBrewing).
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Episode 34 – Keg Slam at Flatland

In the feedback we gather reactions from listeners about the love we gave to Cream Ale and the city of Rochester and doing to triangle tests.
Episode 36 is an all Q&A episode – so get your questions in at questions@experimentalbrew.com (or call us at 626-765-1ALE)
In the pub, we talk Nebraska's efforts to legalize what we think of as normal homebrew use and what's the government's role in alcohol control and also how it's not just a US problem.
In the lab, we announce our next experiment that explores how your method of carbonation affects your beer. Also we tease a new experiment with our sponsor Wyeast.
From the lab we swing out to West Fargo, ND and talk with Frank Clemens of Flatland Brewing about the upcoming brewing scene in the Fargo area.
For our quick tip, we get really cold and small!
And then lastly, Drew talks about an amazing sporting event that had an incredible finish. Watch and be wowed.
Episode Links:
Nebraska Homebrew Situation – http://fox42kptm.com/news/local/could-nebraskas-home-brew-law-change
Nebraska Bill for Legalization – http://nebraskalegislature.gov/bills/view_bill.php?DocumentID=31536
Belgian Homebrewer's Conference – https://www.facebook.com/belgianhomebrewers/photos/a.1594292684202893.10…
Experiment Announcement – Slam Carbonation. https://www.experimentalbrew.com/experiments/draft-carbonation-modified-…
Flatland Brewery: http://flatlandbrewery.com/
2017 Wind Games – https://www.facebook.com/iFlySG/videos/10154557216014865/
San Gabriel Valley Humane Society – http://www.sgvhumane.org/
Patreon Remember even a buck is good for charity: http://www.patreon.com/experimentalbrewing
Experimental Brew Store – https://www.experimentalbrew.com/store
Episode Contents:
00:00:00 Our Sponsors
00:05:30 Feedback
00:12:54 The Pub – Legality
00:26:13 The Brewery – Bottle Cap Opener
00:31:10 The Lab – Keg Carbonation Method
00:38:37 The Lounge – Flatland Brewing
01:36:32 Quick Tip – Eis'ing Small
01:38:38 Something Other Than Beer
This episode is brought to you:
American Homebrewers Association
BrewCraft USA Craftmeister
Jaded Brewing
Mecca Grade Estate Malt
PicoBrew
Wyeast Labs

Interested in helping Denny and Drew with the IGOR program (aka help us run experiments!) – contact them at igor@experimentalbrew.com. We want more Citizen Science!
In the meanwhile, subscribe via your favorite podcasting service (iTunes, etc). Like our podcast, review it – talk it up! If you have comments, feedbacks, harassments, etc, feel free to drop us a line at podcast@experimentalbrew.com. Follow us on Facebook (ExperimentalHomebrewing) or Twitter (@ExpBrewing). If you have questions you'd like answered in our Q&A segment, send an email to questions@experimentalbrew.com!
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A Small Matter of Weight

Fat Drew / Not So Fat Drew
Left: December 26th, 2014 – I dug this picture. First one of me in a long while. (over 270 lbs). Right: September 2016 – Tasting my Saisons Also, how do I always forget to shave? – (~170lbs)

WARNING: You’re entering a really non-beer zone. What follows is an article I originally wrote about a year ago. Why post it now? Because it turns out this is exactly the time of year when everyone’s “I’m eating healthier. Going to exercise! Get in shape! It’s on like Donkey Kong” resolutions suddenly go out the window. So here’s your extra motivation – keep going – it’s possible! (FWIW – I’m still sitting at 170lbs – not too shabby!) 

Our passion and pursuit of brewing knowledge and perfection comes at a somewhat heavy price – our waistlines. A great many homebrewers face the great modern epidemic of growing girth with a major disadvantage – namely, the extra calorie burden of a great tasting beer.

I’m one of them. Hi, my name is Drew and I’m a recovering fat person. I’m also the goof responsible for a lot of scribbling about beers both sublime (Pliny the Toddler) and ridiculous (Clam Chowder Saison!). In November 2014, I stepped on the scale at my doctor’s office and blanched in horror as the scale crossed the previously unsummited peak of 270 lbs. On my 5’10” frame that so ridiculously gargantuan as to make me laugh-cry. But here’s the sad part – that wasn’t enough. Even with years of wishing to change, worsening health and a holiday trip that almost saw me losing exit row seats because I could barely fit the seatbelt about the expanse of epidermis – I still didn’t change.

What finally kicked me down the road to a better me – getting sick. An epic two-week bout of Peruvian Guinea Pig Death Flu finally did it. On January 4th, 2015 I had my homebrew club meeting. Did my official educational song and dance, went home and promptly fell into bed. For two long miserable weeks I survived on a diet of warm chicken broth and Theraflu. Coming out the other side, I found my weight was at 260. That’s what it took. After that little bump, I wasn’t looking back.

But what about the beer? We’ll get there.

A Quick Note About All Things Dietary & Health

I am not a doctor, a registered dietician, nor an expert of any variety. I’m an engineer with an engineer’s obsession around numbers and formulas. This means I suffer from an engineer or physicist’s belief that everything can be neatly quantified and turned into a life changing equation. It’s a fool’s errand to create a catholic system because it’s impossible to fit everyone’s needs. What I’m going to describe here is what worked for me. In the words of my wife “I’m a stubborn mule”. Once I have a plan in my head, I get to work and keep going until I fall over.

My diet worked for me – it might not work for you. There are multiple ways to lose weight and different approaches work better for different people. And do I even need to remind you that making big health/lifestyle changes should be reviewed by an actual medical professional first? This goes double if you have any sketchy health issues. Remember, a diet is intentionally stressing on your body’s systems. Don’t play fast and loose with them!

How to Lose Weight in 4 Easy Steps

Here’s the core of what I did:

– Tracked my calories on my phone using the MyFitnessPal app

– Made sure the things I ate fit inside those limits.

– Walked 2-5 miles per day.

– Be consistent. Nothing screws you up as much as not sticking to your plan.

That’s it. I wish there was a magic trick or a pill or something, because if there was I could be as rich as Croesus. But no, the heart of the matter was coming down to the decision to stuff less junk in my pie hole and work the weight off that way. You’ll hear people refer to this as Calorie In / Calorie Out (CICO). It’s simple; it’s old fashioned and these days actually practical to do with a few simple tools.

Counting Calories – A How To

In the pre-smart phone era, if you wanted to calorie count it was tedious, extraordinarily so. These days with any one of a handful of apps, calorie counting is a simple matter of typing or taking a picture of barcodes. I used the MyFitnessPal app, which ties in with all sorts of health gadgets and other apps to help track the impact of your daily exercise. Literally to use MyFitnessPal, you just type in what you’re eating, add a recipe or scan a barcode. The app helps you calculate how much you should eat per day (calorically) and helps keep a record of how you’re doing.

But that’s not all you need – a scale, well two, are handy. One is your traditional scale. Shed the clothes as comfortable and weigh yourself. Do it consistently, every day or every week at the same time. I prefer pre-coffee, pre-breakfast, pre-morning angst because that’s going to be as low as I go for the day.  Be consistent about it (a theme of this whole effort)

The second is a food scale of some variety. (This is the one I used)Using your hop scale is a great way to reset your picture of proper portions and you’re showing your partner that your brewery purchases can have greater utility. Why a scale? Because seriously – that scoop of delicious nutrition packed peanut butter? Many more calories than you think.

On the one hand, don’t worry about super precision down to the calorie level tracking – you’re playing a game of thousands, not ones. But on the other hand, measuring your food is important to help you know how to eat the correct amount.

Why not <Blank> diet?

These days lots of people swear by carb cutting. Low carb diets (ala atkins/keto/paleo) which work by short-circuiting the “normal” dietary metabolism in favor of ketosis. For some folks, these diets seem to work, but not for me so that’s why I didn’t use that approach.

I’m not a fan of restriction/elimination diets because I don’t feel they’re sustainable. Plus I get a little suspicious when a diet promises me no repercussions for all the bacon I can eat. At some point we all backslide and for many of the restriction diets, a backslide can throw your body out of the diet’s desired state of metabolical activity.

For many low carb diets that causes a pretty dramatic “instant” weight gain as the body creates new stores of glycogen from the influx of carbs. It gets bound with additional water for even more apparent weight gain. Plus let’s face it – from a brewer’s perspective – low carb and beer don’t play well with each other.

There are countless other diet plans out there like Glycemic Index diets that look to curb blood sugar changes by avoiding foods that drop a high amount of glucose into the blood stream or counter balancing carbs with relatively equal loads of protein. The diet basically works to curb hunger and over eating by preventing large swings in insulin production and blood sugar. Proponents also point out that the body will burn carbs before burning fat calories and when your goal is to drop fat, why interfere with it?

There’s still a lot of scientific debate rolling back and forth with different studies offering different evaluations of effectiveness, but again for some people GI diets work quickly and like a charm with other health benefits claimed.

Unfortunately, beer has a high glycemic index, which makes it difficult to incorporate with a GI approach without due diligence paid to balancing out the carb load. A fellow brewer swears by the diet, carrying cubes of chicken breast to competition to equalize his beer intake. He’s lost a bunch of weight following this plan, but even still when he’s in hardcore mode, he still prefers spirits for their lower hit. Remember – different diets work for different people!

One advantage of old fashioned dieting; if you backslide, you take your lumps and go right back to it. No keto flu, no carb cravings, etc. Just accept the “slip” and move on. Remember consistent application of principles will get you there.

What I Eat (Including Recipes!)


An Imperfect, but better than usual Valentine’s Day meal – sauteed spinach, seared scallops on a bed of orange cauliflower puree and a beurre blanc sauce – a little healthy, a little cheaty.

Important thing to know – I love to cook and I love to eat. So what the heck do I eat now that I no longer have a free hand with the olive oil jug and the cheese? Is it all just vegetables? No, but there are a ton more veggies in my diet now than used to be!

My daily goal is to get 50% of my calories from carbohydrates, 30% from protein and 20% from fats. Again, using a tracking app makes it super easy to know if you’re there. Important to note – as much as possible, I avoid large amounts of simple carbs aka refined sugar, sugar syrups, bleached flour, pasta (sob) and less complex breads. These have a tendency to make me hungrier possibly from blood sugar effects (see glycemic index above). I just don’t tend to feel as full or as happy after them so, nope.  Also, let’s face it, I’m drinking beer and other fun beverages while dieting and that’s enough stupidity to not add to it.

I simplified breakfast by almost always eating the same thing. I make a breakfast sandwich based on a whole wheat English muffin, egg whites, a little cheese and some flavorful protein source like smoked salmon. Lunch is a salad or veggies with lean protein – aka chicken breast. Dinner is something tasty, but still light – my turkey chili; a sweet potato topped with tomato sauce, turkey Italian sausage and mozzarella, a veggie burger, a BLTA, fish, shrimp, etc.

My focus is almost always on a lean protein with a spicy condiment and a bunch of fibrous vegetables like kale or zucchini. I don’t have cholesterol issues so I eat a mountain of shrimp cocktail because fancy and tasty. Remember spices are your friends! Here are a few of my favorite palate saving recipes:

A Typical Diet Day:

6:30AM: Cold Brewed Coffee (about a pint. Don’t talk to me until consumed)

7:00AM: New Yorker McMuffin

10:30AM: Celery/Carrot Sticks/Sugar Snap Peas (or a protein bar on lifting days)

12:30PM: Slow Cooked Buffalo Chicken Wrap with salad

2:00PM: Greek Yogurt

4:00PM: Granola/Kind Bar/Turkey Jerky

6:30PM: 5 oz. roasted salmon filet, zucchini noodles, and sweet potato

8:00PM: Frozen Yogurt Bar

10:00PM: Chocolate Covered Almonds

12:00AM: Sleep

New Yorker McMuffin

~200-300 calories

1 Whole Wheat English Muffin (Double Fiber even better to stay full)

0.75 oz. goat cheese

2 thin slices yellow onion

A handful of capers

1 oz. smoked salmon

4 oz. Egg White Substitute, scrambled with cooking spray

Salt

Black pepper

Dried thyme

Squeeze sriracha, if desired

Pickled peppers, if desired

– Toast the muffin, spread with goat cheese.

– Top cheese on one side with half the onion, scatter the capers on there and top with salmon

– In a non-stick skillet, scramble the egg white and spices briefly before letting it set into a sheet. Fold it and let brown slightly.

– Add egg on top of the salmon, top with the other part of onion and pickled peppers, if desired

I also do this with Canadian bacon or turkey bacon or turkey sausage and cheddar (1/2 oz.) and no capers for a variation

Chicken Sausage Kale Bowl

~300-400 calories

This is tasty and good for you, plus the kale does a great job filling you up. Shut up, I know Kale. Give this a shot – you’ll actually enjoy it.

1/2 medium yellow onion, diced

2 cloves garlic, minced

1-2 links Chicken Sausage, diced

5-6 oz. cut, cleaned Kale

Splash olive oil

Splash balsamic vinegar

1 egg, sunny side up

1/2 oz. grated Parmesan

– In a skillet, spray with a little olive oil mist. Add onion with a pinch of salt – sweat the onions until soft. Add the garlic and stir until fragrant. Add the chicken sausage and brown.

– Add the kale to your skillet, stir it around to get coated and then cover the pan and let the kale wilt for 5-10 minutes or until soft, but not mushy. It should have wilted into a dark green tangle

– Add the olive oil and vinegar and toss the kale to coat.

– Serve in a bowl topped with the egg and Parmesan and some hot sauce to boot.

Zucchini Turkey Sausage Lasagna

Makes 6 servings in a 9×13 pan – because they lie when they say “8 servings” No one eats 1/8th of a 9×13 pan of lasagna without feeling a pang of regret and nibbling off small pieces with a fork.

Approximately 420 calories per serving. (Compare that to traditional lasagna which has something like eleventy billion per slice – and you eat two of them)

“Noodles”:

3 largish zucchini, sliced into planks on mandoline, salted liberally on paper towels. I use the second thickest setting on the mandoline to get sturdy slices that don’t fall apart but also don’t dominate the meaty cheese goodness.

Sauce:

1 onion, diced

4 cloves garlic, minced

3 links hot Italian turkey sausage

1 tbsp. tomato paste

10 oz. crimini mushrooms, chopped

1 big can crushed tomatoes

2 oz. vermouth/wine

1 tsp oregano

Cheeses:

12 oz. part skim mozzarella, shredded

12 oz. ricotta

1 egg

1 oz. grated Parmesan

Instructions

Preheat oven to 350F

Noodle Prep

Prep zucchini and let salt do it’s magic for ~20 minutes while you assemble the sauce.

Sauce Prep

Sweat onion over medium-high heat with a little olive oil (or spray oil) in your saucepot with salt. Get translucent. Add garlic, stir until fragrant with salt. Remove sausage from casing; break up into wee little pieces in the pot. Sauté until no longer pink. Add tomato paste to pot and stir until no longer bright red and threatens to burn. It’s flavor, shut up. Add chopped up mushrooms with so much salt. Cook for 10 minutes until mushrooms release moisture and moisture goes bye bye. Add tomatoes. Rinse can with wine and add to pot. A little booze actually helps release flavors otherwise not available. Simmer until thick – 20-30 minutes.

Noodle Cook

Now that zucchini has been sitting a while, dry with paper towels. Place onto baking sheets lined with silicone mats or parchment paper. Bake for 15 minutes. Pull and allow to cool.

Lasagna Assembly and Cookery

Mix the ricotta and egg together with some salt and pepper. Set aside

Take a 9×13 pan, I use an enameled cast iron because heavy is good. Add a layer of sauce to bottom of pan. Lay in half the “noodles” and top with more sauce. Add most of the ricotta mixture. Spread it around. Add 1/2 the mozzarella.

Layer in more noodles. More sauce, the last bit of ricotta, the other half of mozz and then sprinkle with the Parmesan on top.

Put 9×13 pan on a cookie sheet and bake for 35 minutes in the middle of the oven. Turn the broiler onto low and broil for 5-7 minutes until the top is so, so gloriously brown.

Pull for the oven, wait 15 minutes to avoid burning the hell out of your mouth.

Turkey Three Bean Chili

Makes 8 giant servings – roughly 350 calories per serving (without cheese or other condiments)

1 large yellow onion, diced

6 cloves garlic, minced

1 container extra lean ground turkey (20 oz.)

2 tablespoons cumin powder

2-3 tablespoons chili powders (I mix several homemade together)

2 cups water

2 oz. Tequila

28 oz. can Crushed Tomatoes

15 oz. can Fire Roasted Tomatoes

15 oz. can Lower Sodium Pinto Beans

15 oz. can Lower Sodium Black Beans

15 oz. can Lower Sodium Red Kidney Beans

14 oz. smoked Turkey drumstick, meat stripped and roughly chopped

Cilantro to taste

– Spray down a large Dutch oven and heat over medium heat. When hot, add the onion and a big pinch of salt. Stir and cooking until onion is translucent. Add garlic and allow to get fragrant – 30-60 seconds.

– Add the ground turkey, stirring to break up into small pieces. (With meat this lean, I prefer small pieces to avoid a tough chew). 5-10 minutes

– Once the turkey is no longer pink, add the spices and heat them through in the turkey juices. Add 1 cup of water and let the water bloom and boil – turn your spices into a spice slurry. Repeat with the second cup of water and then finally with the tequila. Your pot should be filled with an aromatic punch and a bunch of turkey and onions.

– Reduce the heat to low and stir in the tomatoes, beans and smoked turkey. Add a few roughly torn up sprigs of cilantro. Let simmer for 45 minutes or until the tomatoes no longer taste “tomatoey” and the chile and cumin flavors shine through

How to Eat – Snacks and On the Run

A good thing to figure out about yourself is how you like to eat. Turns out I like to have constant stimulation and so for me it worked out that I preferred having the ability to grab a snack on regular basis along with smaller main meals. Gotta track the calories though!

Snack Foods

– Turkey Jerky

– Nuts (I particularly love chocolate covered almonds – careful though nuts are calorie dense)

– Greek yogurt with some variety of fruit mix in

– Carrot/Celery sticks/sugar snap peas

– Water crackers and cheese/hummus/nut butter/yogurt spreads

On the run eating or eating out is another challenge because we don’t always have kitchen access at the ready. My best plan for eating out has always been to make up my mind before hand. In other words, say unto myself before entering that restaurant “we’re going to look for a nice piece of fish or chicken and ignore the pizzas and pastas that we want to bury our face into”. That little mental exercise is enough to give me the extra mental clarity to make a more dietically friendly choice. It’s not perfect – sometimes the gooey nature of an artichoke spin dip overrides my sense, but that’s the way it rolls.

The other important tip about eating out – don’t eat all of it. Restaurant portions are insanely huge in this country – usually 2-3 times appropriate single meal sizes. Some people ask the waiter to box half the meal when they order, but my sense of social propriety makes that untenable. Instead, eat slowly and sensibly, stop and let your brain catch up to the body’s signals of satiety.

Beer on a Diet

Here’s the part you wanted to know – can you drink on a diet? Turns out that the answer is yes, but carefully. I limited my drinking for the first two months of my diet. Part of it wasn’t hard – I still wasn’t feeling well. I pretty much only drank at club functions and even then didn’t drink at our board meetings. Slowly, I incorporated more drinks over time as I felt better and fitter. But – most importantly, I fit the beers into my daily calorie count.

Take a look at that “daily diet” day. On days when I’m at a club meeting or festival, the number of snacks decreases. The meals become leaner – chicken instead of salmon. More veggies and skip the sweet potato and dessert. That’s how I do it.

The hardest part about drinking – avoiding two voices – the voice that says, “You know what sounds like a lovely idea? Another drink!” and the other voice that says “hey, I could really go for a large double cheese double meat pizza.” The first, the “grog monster”, is easy to avoid if you can make a plan and stick to it.

The second is harder because that voice is your body’s natural reaction to drink induced blood sugar drops. In a nutshell – alcohol consumption causes fluctuations in insulin and blood sugar levels. When your blood sugar crashes thanks to increased insulin, your brain fires off signals that you receive as an emergency bat signal for immediate food consumption – the more caloric, the better and naturally the worse for your goal of losing weight. If drinking is taking to excess, this can get rather dangerous, but for your garden variety having a couple of drinks – don’t listen to it or at least grab a healthy snack instead of that giant tray of mini bagel pizzas you see.

But, but… looking at the Internets many craft beers fall into the realm of 200-300+ calories per serving. How the heck am I going to fit all of those into my daily regimen and still eat food? A strategy you can use, and many people do this to incorporate “cheat days” is to use “intermittent fasting”. Plan ahead – if you know you’re going to a beer festival on Saturday, increase your calorie deficit during the week by 100-200 calories to give yourself a little extra room on Saturday. You’re basically lending yourself calories to use. Remember what I said about cheat days? Well, there you go – beer days are my cheat day – kinda.

Oh and be careful! As you lose weight, the amount of alcohol you can safely consume (in terms of intoxication) drops. On the one hand, your bar tabs will go down since you’re no longer downing four pints of 10% beer. On the other, you’ll need to keep a better eye on yourself and remember things like cabs, Uber/Lyft and designated drivers. Heck, wouldn’t hurt for you to be the DD for your friends for a bit!

Exercise – How, What, When and Why Not to Push It


The Only Gym Selfie I’ve Ever Taken – As Far As You Know

Astute readers will notice I’ve only said one word about exercise and that’s “Walked”. Most people desirous of weight loss go all in. They get gung ho about their resolution to lose weight and start dieting and hitting the gym at the same time. Gotta burn up those calories after all and make up for lost time.

It’s a natural reaction, but I feel like it’s a formula for failure. Why? At least for my personality, this whole weight loss thing had to start with me re-training my food habits that trying to add exercise to it would have been overwhelming.

Exercise is good and it’s a key to getting truly healthy. Adding exercise, particularly strenuous cardio, will burn calories, but it also will ramp your appetite at a time when you have to deal with the first throes of “Can’t eat all the stuff I used to eat” syndrome. That’s sounds like a perfect storm of “I want to eat” desires at a time when you’re trying to ignore them.

After my first month of dieting, I started simple. I took my army of Chihuahuas on a daily walk. At first it was just around the block, every day before work. At work, I walked around my office building at lunch. Gradually, I added distance. The morning walk grew to 2.5 miles with some very exhausted dogs happy to sleep for the day. The work time walk grew to encompass the whole lunch break pushing up to 4 miles. Did the dog walk every day. Longer walks 4 times a week. Eventually I even bought a pair of proper shoes to do a little light running. For the vast majority of this project, this is all I did for exercise.

Depending on your physical condition, exercise can put you in a worse position from a weight loss perspective. You go for a jog, twist an ankle, get discouraged and then start to backslide. If you’re not prepared for it, the backslide can become permanent.

A mental obstacle I tripped myself up with for years is “exercise reward” thinking. That’s the little voice saying, “Dude! You rocked that treadmill today! You crushed those weights! You must have burned eleventy thousand calories, look at the machine’s counter! You deserve a reward of a nacho pizza cake!” (Goggle “nacho pizza cake” to shake your head at humanity’s waist)

It’s a fool’s errand to listen to that voice. He’s wrong for several reasons. First, no matter how many sensors you’re using, anything telling you how many calories you’ve burned is going to be woefully inaccurate and can lead you into the delusional garden of exercise eating.

Secondly, Penn Jillette, the loquacious half of Penn & Teller, lost a bunch of weight recently and developed the motto of “You can’t outrun your mouth”. While I disagree with some aspects of his diet plan (which is extremely low calorie), I whole-heartedly agree with his motto. Unless you’re training like Michael Phelps, exercise alone isn’t going to compensate for a diet of Double IPA, double cheeseburgers and double pieces of pie.

Having said all of that – as I approached my final goal weight – 170 – my weight loss slowed. Gone were the days of losing 2 lbs. a week while eating 1900+ calories. I needed more exercise and that’s when I think you want to bring in the big guns, the strength training. Adding muscle does wonders for keeping calories at bay. It also requires more calories, preferably “clean” calories to keep building, which is what makes it tricky – more food means more possible weight if you stop working out.

Now my weekly routine consists of a full body strength routine three-four times a week with a circuit training class plus walking/jogging the other days. When I’m in the gym I simply do squats, overhead presses, deadlifts, rows, lunges and bench presses. That’s enough to get you started on the right course! Every day I try to do a little something for the mechanical system of my body.

How My Diet Went

Here’s the breakdown so you’ll know what to possibly expect. You’ve seen the front photo. I’ll drop some additional progress photos after this.

In my first month of dieting, including the time I was sick – I dropped 22 pounds. It’s insanely fast, but that’s the body getting rid of the excess water as well as fat that you’re carrying. It’s easy and amazing to watch that happen with just a little focus – but beware the “woo hoo! celebrate” messages in your head. As time went on, the monthly totals dropped – as they should. The second month, I lost another 12 pounds. By month five I was down nearly 60 pounds – over half way to my goal.

Actually, here’s a word about goals. I started this diet at 270+. My initial goal – the marker I set my sights on – was 200. Let’s get there! As time went, I adjusted my goal when I saw that I could still do it and had room to improve. Eventually 200 became 190; 190 became 174 to get to a healthy BMI (Body Mass Index – a ratio of height to weight) target for my height and then finally 174 became 170 because even numbers rock. Now my goal is to stay around there and enjoy life while being in a better space physically and health wise!

Eventually, I got to my healthy BMI target (174) in October – 9 months after starting. It took another two months after that to reach my final goal of below 170. (100 lbs down!) It happens.

If you look at the graph of my weight loss, you’ll see that flattening of the scale. At first it’s easy to lose weight because your body needs a lot of calories. When I first started at 270, I could lose weight eating close to 2000 calories a day – that’s a lot of healthy food! Before I got more exercise incorporating, my restricted target was closer to 1500 calories per day – a much tougher goal.

Those bumps in the graph – those are completely normal. Some are tied to events like going wine tasting, visits from family, the AHA conference or travelling, etc. Some aren’t. Some are just the normal day-to-day fluctuations of your body mass. Don’t let an upswing get you down – particularly if you’re exercising or having a respite from the diet, but don’t get complacent!

Here’s an important tip if you have a long slog ahead of you – take some pictures. You’ve seen mine in this column showing my face. There’s a set of pasty puffy white shirtless dude as well – but those aren’t releasable on the orders of the Federal Government for the safety of society. Additional things to track – particularly when you get to the end of your journey and things become less about the number on the scale and more about other changes – get a measuring tape and learn how to take tailor measurements. You’ll be surprised at how many inches seem to disappear even though your weight stays the same. (Hello tricky fact that muscle mass weighs more than fat!)


February 2015 – 1 month in


April 2015 – 3 months in


June 2015


August 2015


October 2015 (I couldn’t fit into this shirt when the guys in Brazil originally gave it to me!)


December 2015 – Almost 1 year since the “good” photo

Life on a Diet

Back to our most important lesson – a diet as a “period of weight loss” is a terrible concept. It dooms us into this world of privation where we see a ticking countdown clock or a finish line just ahead that welcomes us back to a land of plenty. If you’re like me, being in a land of plenty with no restrictions is what got me into trouble in the first place. Instead, let’s focus on “diet” as a means of eating in a healthy fashion.

This also means you have to remember to live life, even while dieting. During my weight loss quest I went on several brewery trips, went to Brazil where I gave myself the meat sweats and drank cacahca and capharinas in the jungle, epic wine tastings, holiday meals, conferences, etc. Probably should have enjoyed a few more special meals with my family, but that’s my stupid laser beam focus kicking in. Try to live your life and recognize that things are meant to be experienced not just lived “correctly”.

Please remember, you’re bound to screw up. You’re going to have that extra beer, ice cream, pizza, nachos, duck fat fried French fries with aioli, etc. Then, if you’re like me, your brain will kick you in the metaphorical shins with demotivational words about your loserdom, which naturally activates that “sad eating” impulse. Take a page from the recovering folks at Anything Anonymous (hey, there’s an Overeater’s Anonymous!) – this is a one-day at a time effort. Leave the guilt in the confessional and keep working your program! You’ve got years to screw up and correct your mistakes!

Life Post Weight Loss

The dramatic part of my weight loss journey stopped in November of 2015 when I hit 165 lbs., down from my initial weight somewhere north of 270. In that time, I went from squeezing into size 44 “relaxed” jeans (at a waist size in excess of 50”) to “slim” size 32’s (waist- 35”) and from super tight XXL shirts to mediums.  The truly terrifying number – I went from over 50% body fat down to ~18% – aka back into healthy range! Over time I’ve added muscle and dropped the body fat down to 14%. Currently, I’m up a little (172ish) because I’ve been injured and out of the gym, but we’ll correct that soon!

I still track my calories because it’s good to keep things honest and understand my caloric needs and how I’m doing.

And here’s the thing – this time is the hard part. Losing weight was annoying, but exciting and motivating as I could see progress before my very own eyes. There were plenty of congratulations being passed around once I lost 40 lbs. and people decided it was ok to comment and praise me. Those changing wardrobe sizes felt rad everywhere except my wallet. Even writing this article is a bit of an ego boost.

Now I’m in a world where the praise doesn’t come easy and the fight is one to maintain stasis. It’s not as sexy and rewarding and it’s a longer slog. But here I am now and I intend to stay somewhat here. I’ve set a line in the sand – if my weight moves back above a certain threshold, it’s back to business. Until then, just gotta keep fighting and resisting the seductive draw of the “easy” – the pizza, the cheeseburgers, all the fried goodies and  “ahh, screw it, I’m too tired to cook let’s eat out”.

Let’s make a deal shall we? Let’s see where we’re at in a year and congratulate each other then for our success in either losing or maintaining. Just remember, we may not get to all the beers this year, but we’ll be in better shape to get the beers of the future!

Brew Files – Episode 3 – Michael Tonsmeire Fails Gracefully At Cloning Oerbier

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Episode 33 – The Bitter Truth

In the feedback we take a moment to not only reflect on the launch of the Brew Files, but to also remind folks about the difference between companies and people particularly when the snark is flying in podcast land.
We donated $688 to the Children's Tumor Foundation in the name of the listeners. Thanks to Robert Allaway for the suggestion. Reminder our charity is now the San Gabriel Valley Humane Society. Let's try and raise enough funds via Patreon to hit a cool thousand by July!
Episode 36 is an all Q&A episode – so get your questions in at questions@experimentalbrew.com (or call us at 626-765-1ALE)
In the pub, we talk Sierra Nevada's Beer Recall from North Carolina and how Firestone Walker is switching to smaller bottles for their “special” beers Hey whatever happened to the nip?
In the library, Denny covers a timely article from Scott Janish looking at the impact of dry hopping on final beer bitterness
In the lab, we get our IGOR on and try to better understand the results that we saw in our IBU experiment. Why were some of the IGORs dead on and others way low? We talk to five IGORs about their brew day experiences and try and see is there a common culprit? Saw Hi to Kevin Kolk, Dave Matson, Ben Myton, Mike O'Toole and Jeremy Wickham.
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Quick and Dirty Science – Steel Cut Oats

TLDR – Lord You Talk Too Much Drew – Executive Summary

It looks like no, Steel cut oats don’t necessarily need to be pre-cooked to use in a mash, but judging by the results I saw – it still helps.

For Those Who Like To Read

I am a huge fan of oats in beer as listeners of the podcast will discover shortly. I tend to use them in a lot of places, because why not. It’s probably because I’m part Scottish or something. (honestly family lineages are so screwy who can tell)

Anywho.. digressions aside. The second episode of the Brew Files – The Crushable Cream Ale, led to me getting tagged on a Facebook homebrewing post about steel cut oats. (Homebrewers Roundtable is a closed group, so you’ll need to ask to be a member of the group.)

Namely, can they just be mashed like normal or should you cook them first? I got tagged because listener Paul Galardy suggested – “maybe they should be cereal mashed and you can hear Drew drone on about it here” (Paul was nicer than my editorializing!)

The question comes – well, the tables that are out there say oats gelatinize at temps lower than mash temps (~125-144F) Basically for oats, that’s the range in which the starches bust out of their cages and go racing free into the soaking liquid. Different cereal grains gelatinize at different temps. You can see from the photo I borrowed from Adam, oats, rye, wheat all happily gooify below saccharification temps. Corn and rice, on the other hand, do not. So that’s why when we talk about Cream Ale (or American Light Lager), you have to talk about pre-cooking the grain.

But not all grain types are equal. I would bet good money that the majority of people think of oats as looking like this.

Those are flaked oats and they’re versitile and wonderful to use. Big thing about flaked grains in general – they’re already gelatinized – hit them with hot water and the starches are free to disperse. That’s why so many brewers will use flaked corn or flaked rice. Less work!

But steel cut oats are a little different, they’re little pieces, but they haven’t been pre-cooked and when made for breakfast, they take a good long while to cook. Is a regular mash hot enough and long enough to hydrate the cereal and get the starch into solution to be enzymatically transformed to sugary good times? See what they look like? (For more information about oat forms – check out this kitchn article)

Steel Cut Oats – Plus Look 20+ years later and sexy knife scar still on the pinky!

The “Experiment”To answer the question at hand, I set up a quick and dirty experiment – two mason jars, 1 sous vide circulator, 1 quart water per jar and ~0.8lbs of domestic 2-row and oats split 50/50. This would put us close to the traditional 1.25 quarts/lb mash ratio many homebrewers use.

Process

Seems so ridiculously tiny, but there you are one pound of Great Western 2-Row
Grind The Barley.

I ground a pound of barley through my lovely MM3 mill to produce a nice even crush.

Crush Your Barley!

Weigh In:

I weighed out 6.4 oz of two row and oats for each jar. This 50/50 ratio is well above what all but the most fool hardy brewers would use, but what the heck. Let’s push this

Weighing in at 6.4oz – The Main Show – US 2-Row

And in this corner – 6.4 oz of Steel Cut Oats
Pre-Heating Jars

When the dumb idea occurred to me, I grabbed my half gallon mason jars, added one quart of water and threw them into a Cambro with my Anova circulator (newer model in link, my old one is discontinued). I set the circulator to 152F and walked away for an hour to let the jars and water heat through.

The Soak

With the water at temp, I mixed the grist into the water and let it soak in the warm bath. Now this is arguably the tactical error I made with the setup. The grains dropped the temps into the high 130’s. To compensate, I let the jars run for 2 hours in the water bath. The first hour was all a slow ramp to 152F and the last hour was the “mash rest” for conversion. Turns out this is about as ideal a scenario as you could get for hydrating the steel cut oats. (Next time, I’ll heat the strike water separately and then dose into the pre-heated jars.)

Time and Temperature Doing It’s Thing

Play with the Hugo While Waiting for the Sciencing to Resume
The Lauter

Take one fine mesh strainer, one giant Rubbermaid pitcher and strain. Each set of grain was allowed to drain. I let the wort drain for about 10 minutes after which we’d collected at least a pint of wort. (In theory we should have collected about 1.2 pints per sample, but I wasn’t being finicky here.)

High Tech!
The Settle

I decided it was best to let some of the massive protein charge in these worts settle first before taking a sample. Oats sure do throw some gunk don’t they. Interestingly that even after an hour, the flaked oats were still messy as all get out. For the record, yes, the fine mesh strainer is a coarser separation mechanism than our usual gear.

After lautering both. The Steel Cut on the left has a 10 minute head start, but it’s clarity was always leaps and bounds. See next pic

One Hour Later – Steel Cut on Left is still much, much clearer
The Tests

I decided to subject the samples to four tests.

  • Mash Taste Test: How did the mash taste? Sweet? Dry?
  • Iodine Starch Conversion: Was there free floating starch in the wort. (The iodine test isn’t exact, but it’s a good rough measure)
  • Original Gravity: How much sugar did we get?
  • Wort Taste Test: How did the wort taste?

The Results:

Steel Cut Oats:

  • Mash Taste: Oats themselves are soft, but still with a bit of tooth. Some noticeable sweetness left in the mash. Remove the barley husk from this and I could totally see this being a Scotsman’s breakfast. (I would seriously eat it)
  • Iodine: The test showed complete conversion and with the wort being clearer, there was no confusion to the readings – iodine went in iodine colored and stayed iodine color
  • OG: ~15.2B (aka 15.2P), compared to the theoretical max of 27.5P means we gathered to the wort ~55.3% of the sugar. This is less than the Flaked (see next section) Makes me a little worried about the overall extract.
  • Wort: Wort tastes very oaty with a hearty mouthfeel and clean nutty component. Definite impact from the oats on the overall character. Would definitely enjoy this in the morning. Might be the ultimate Hot Scotchy.


Contact! Iodine Stays Iodiney (Even after swirling and mixing)

Some days my refractometer photo game is on point. This was not one of those days Steel Cut – reading about 15.2B
Flaked Oats:

  • Mash Taste: This mash was total mush. The oats had no residual presence having just dissolved away. The mash itself was mostly bland, lacking sweetness, indicating it had moved into the wort.
  • Iodine: The test showed complete conversion, though the extra material carried into the wort was causing some color change that eventually settled back to dirty iodine color
  • OG: ~18B (aka 18P), compared to the theoretical max of 27.5P means we gathered to the wort ~65.5% of the sugar. Not too shabby.
  • Wort: Much, much sweeter than the steel cut. The body is much thicker, more viscous. Feels like an old English nursemaid’s recovery drink “Beechum’s Barley Oat Tonic Revitalizes Your Sapped Spirits. Now With Radium for Extra Pep!”


Muddier, but still iodine color (the blotch of purple in the upper corner did fade back)

That’s no horizon, but it’s a lot higher than the steel cut!
Conclusions (aka Finally you get to the point you rambling so and so.)

Ok, so it’s fairly clear that we get extract when using steel cut oats raw in a mash. Even in this dirty test we see the grain softened and starches released. Now, this was also the best case scenario – the oats had a nice long (120 minute) mash, but a good portion of that was the ramp up to saccharification, so the soak would have been slower.

Does this mean I feel comfortable saying “eh, just go and throw your steel cut oats in the mash”? I’m going to say “maybe”. I think there was a fair amount of extract left in the steel cut  compared to the flaked. This leads me to say that if you want a better guarantee of full extract from your steel cut oats, you should probably still cook them first just to give everything a head start.

The steel cut wort was clearer, but I’m not certain that’s going to matter with a proper mash with proper lautering, boiling, chilling and then a whole cycle of fermentation and racking. Besides isn’t oat haze part of all the rage these days?

What was also nice to see was just how much impact the oats had on the worts. If you’ve ever doubted oats were doing anything at the usual brewer’s addition rate of 5-10%, 50% will definitely convince you that there’s an impact.

What do you think? Any ideas for other “quick and dirty” science things we can perform? I did this in a single afternoon because it bugged me I didn’t know the answer.

Brew Files – Episode 2 – The Crushable Cream Ale

The Brew Is Out There!
STYLE SHOW
This episode we give Denny's voice a rest as Drew explores one of his favorite beers to absolutely crush. (Yes, we know the irony of just talking about crushable on the other show, but if any beer style is crushable in a way that leaves you feeling respectable – it's cream ale). So sit back and let Drew tell you the story of Cream Ale – an American Original!
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I Dream of Jenny Cream Ale: https://www.experimentalbrew.com/recipes/i-dream-jenny-cream-ale
Episode Content:
00:03:15 History
00:11:51 Taste
00:21:41 Ingredients
00:26:19 Recipe
00:28:16 Wrapup!
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